January 2, 2014 at 12:27 pm #3335
I would count it as another glitch, but it raises the question how long it took Scaetha to close the portal. Until Wiggy tells otherwise one could assume, that it was open for quite a while…
High Priest of Hoenir & Champion of QedeshetJanuary 3, 2014 at 12:09 pm #3337
The gates would have been open a while before order was restored.January 3, 2014 at 2:01 pm #3338
A while is a loose concept. Two or three years are explainable, even half a decade, but anything longer would have warranted an entry in the potted history about finally closing the gates. The demon lords are slow to react, but not THAT slow – at least in my books… 🙂
High Priest of Hoenir & Champion of QedeshetJanuary 7, 2014 at 6:20 am #3370McCurmudgeonMinion
In the player’s guide it refers to Orc War breaking out twenty years ago and the Knights Hrafn being founded 3 years later. This is on pg.118. We know from the potted history that the Knights Hrafn were formed 24 years ago, 4 years before Orcmark was created.
I’m assuming that the twenty years referred to in the book is an approximate date and is referring to something other than the Vestmark situation.
Champion of ChronosJanuary 7, 2014 at 12:05 pm #3371
You seem to be correct. According to the PHB it doesn’t add up, since the Knights were founded 3 years after the invasion about 20 years ago. So 485IR should be the correct date, not 475IR as written. But I have to check the Organization and Orcmark expansions at home first. 🙁
High Priest of Hoenir & Champion of QedeshetJanuary 7, 2014 at 12:29 pm #3372
Although 20 years is an approximation of when the war began (hard to tell whether a skirmish was part of it or just regular orc activity in the years beforehand), I’d change the 475 entry to 482, making it 3 years after the main invasion. That avoids any confusion with the main text and ties in with…
…Alas, you will find a total brain fart regarding the Knights Hrafn in the Organization Guide, where it speaks of them being found a decade after Orcmark was created. Methinks I had the Siphoning and invasion taking place in the same year in my mind when I wrote that particular line. They were, of course, ten years apart. The joys of building a big world while simultaneously juggling other settings. 🙂
And when you get to 497 in the Potted History I know there’s a typo. It says orcs instead of lizardmen.January 7, 2014 at 7:09 pm #3376
Thanks. You spared me some researching, mate. 😉
Thanks for the work, McCurmudgeon. Never noticed the differences because in my games such timelines are always a rule of thumb approximation.
Come forward as soon as you finished the corrected and compiled timeline. If Wiggy concurs, such a work warrants publication as a freebie, especially with cross-references to Al-Shirkuh. 😀
High Priest of Hoenir & Champion of QedeshetJanuary 7, 2014 at 8:15 pm #3377January 8, 2014 at 12:22 am #3378McCurmudgeonMinion
That’s great. I was hoping to be able to share this, but wasn’t sure how to go about making sure it’s ok. Right now I’ve got it split into several different files, mainly to keep the GM material from the Gazetteer secret and also Rassilon and Al-Shirkuh separate to keep track of what I’ve covered. I’ve been including page numbers and links to this thread for reference which will hopefully help if you edit it.
Champion of ChronosJanuary 8, 2014 at 1:42 am #3379
Rasilon and Al-Shirkuh do need to be kept separate. They’re part of the same world and share some history, but they’re also separate realms. Keeping player and GM material separate I’ll look at when you’re done. It might simply be the GM file is larger ‘cos it’ll include ALL the relevant information for the respective continent.
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